MELAFIX ------------ ΚΑΝΕΙ ΚΑΚΟ ΤΕΛΙΚΑ ΣΤΟΥΣ ΜΟΝΟΜΑΧΟΥΣ?...
Μετά από ώρες διάβασμα.... μεταξύ αλλων .... η γενική εντύπωση είναι ότι το μελαφίξ βλάπτει τους μονομάχους και αν κάποιος αποφασίσει να το χρησιμοποιήσει, πρέπει να βάλει το 1/4 της δόσης.
Επίσης δεν βοηθάει σε σοβαρές καταστάσεις finrot.
Αυτά δεν θα έπρεπε να είναι γενικά γνωστά;
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Avoid medicines that have melalecula oil (tea tree oil) in them, as they DO NOT treat fin rot.
They are antiseptic medicines that will help AFTER the rot is cured and help with fin re-growth.
Such medicines are Melafix and Bettafix, to name a few. These medicines are controversial in the betta community, as too much of this medicine can cause damage to their labyrinth organ/lungs.
If you feel comfortable enough using these, please use the Melafix at at most 1/4 the recommended dose. Bettafix is essentially watered down Melafix, so please- only use the dose recommended and NO MORE.
2. All Betta Owners Read!!!!! Melafix Alert!!!!!! Read!!!! Read!!!! Danger!!!!
All Betta Owners Read!!!!! Melafix Alert!!!!!! Read!!!! Read!!!! Danger!!!! in the Betta Archive forums, part of the Freshwater Aquarium Fish Archive category. Edit: Moderator's Note-Adding a link to an updated discussion on this topic. Anyone interested in more information regarding it, please go here: http://www.fishlore.com/fishforum/be...x+alert+bettas -End Moderator's Note- MELAFIX ALERT!!!!* NOT SAFE FOR bettas !!!!* WILL KILL YOUR FISH OF OVERDOSE!!! I just received a report from Butterfly by e-mail that Melafix is dangerously toxic to Bettas so I beg of you that any of you who are now treating your Bettas with Melafix do an immediate 90% water change and watch ...
Melafix is particularly damaging for anabantoid fish...fish with labyrinth lungs that supplement their oxygen intake at the surface of the water...like bettas, gouramis, and paradise fish.
Being an oil, it leaves an oil slick both on the surface of the tank and on their labyrinth lungs basically suffocating the. As well the strong antiseptic strength of the tree tea oil is too much for them to take. There are a trail of people who have lost their bettas to melafix. Bettafix, which is marketed for them, is mildly more diluted but needs to be used with extreme caution also and I never recommend it. As jlk says, clean water is a much better medicine.
Melafix is marketed as an 'all natural cure all' for anything & everything for fish.
Very simply, its not. 99% of the time healthy water does more for fish than melafix ever could.
Melafix does NOT treat the diseases it lists such as bacterial infections, fungus, etc- only real meds can do this. And, unfortunately, melafix can have disasterous results (more so with sensitive fish) as you have discovered the hard way. ALWAYS research anything you are considering putting into your tank before doing so and ask questions first! I honestly despise melafix & its reputed 'claims' and think its the gypsy equivalent of snake oil. And the number of people I have tried to help whose fish have died using this product are quite large.
5. bettas don't cope well with melafix- it coats the inside of their labyrinth organ and makes it difficult for them to breath. I'm not sure the effects that pimafix would have.
6. Is the melafix always harmful to them? For some reason I thought it was only dangerous to the labyrinth organ during it's development? I believe so. I've heard of some people that mistakenly used it on their bettas, and ended up with no adverse affects, but I personally wouldn't want to risk it. Here's a pretty good thread about melafix and bettas: Update Regarding Labyrinth Fish and Melafix
7. Hi Melafix isn't recommended for Bettas. Its basically cajeput oil and there have been reports of Bettas dying due to toxicity from it in large doses.
Bettas are also what's known as labyrinth fish (they can breathe oxygen via an organ located behind their gill cavity) and Melafix has also been known to damage this and cause the fish to suffocate.
If you've been dosing daily then please stop now and address the quality of the water because this is where the problem is.
8. To clear up some of the questions I see on the board related to BettaFix and MelaFix, I thought I would explain to anyone interested the difference. Both medications have only one active ingredient - Melaleuca. This is the active compound in Tea Tree Oil. A little more about Tea Tree: "The oil of the humble tea tree (Melaleuca alternifolia), one of the great survivors in Australia's harsh climate, is widely used as a medication, although there have been few proper clinical trials to confirm its efficacy. The only place M.alternifolia occurs naturally is in a relatively small area of northern New South Wales. But there are already a number of plantations producing about 100 tonnes of tea tree oil annually, which is sold to companies that include it in a wide range of products - shampoos, hair conditioners, soap, cream, gel, lotions, even toothpaste. It is also included in liniments, foot balms, insect repellents and germicides. University of Western Australia microbiologist Dr Tom Riley, and PhD student Christina Carson have found that the oil will kill many bacteria present in a number of common infections, including some of the staphylococcus and streptococcus bacteria. There are also unconfirmed reports that it is effective against cold sores and herpes. Like eucalyptus oil, tea tree oil should not be administered orally. Dr Riley is confident that tea tree oil is effective as an antiseptic and disinfectant, useful for minor cuts and abrasions, and as it penetrates the skin it is effective for complaints such as acne. It is also believed to have been successfully employed in treating vaginal infections. Tea tree oil has been used on a small scale as a medication ever since European settlement more than two centuries ago. Aborigines used it - in a non-processed form - as a treatment for headaches, other pain, colds and as an insect repellent." From The Melaleuca Page. MelaFix - MelaFix is 1.0% Melaleuca. It is the more concentrated, or stronger, of the two remedies. BettaFix - BettaFix is 0.2% Melaleuca. It is less concentrated than Melafix, by 80%. This means for every one drop of Melafix, you would need 5 drops of BettaFix to get the same amount of Melaleuca. Many people believe that MelaFix is harmful to bettas, and recommend using BettaFix. However, knowing what you now know, you can see that MelaFix and BettaFix are the same - you will simply need to dilute one drop of MelaFix into 4 drops of water in order to have the equivilent of one drop of BettaFix. Or, you can simply use one drop of Melafix in place of 5 drops of BettaFix! Edited to add: A note on PimaFix - PimaFix, By the makers of MelaFix and BettaFix, is not Melaleuca. The active ingredient in this natural antifungal/antibacterial medication is the active compound in Pimenta racemosa. In PimaFix, the concentration is 1.0% of this compound. Pimenta racemosa, or West Indian Bay, is a member of the Myrtle family. It has been used as an herbal remedy for ages, for things such as rheumatism, muscle pain, neuralgia, dental infections, diarrhea, skin infections, colds & flu, and poor circulation. More info: PimaFix is a natural botanical remedy made from Pimenta racemosa Pimenta racemosa (West Indian Bay) oil, providing unique active compounds, which harmoniously work together to attack fish diseases. The active compounds found in Pimenta racemosa not only provide many different modes of action, but also eliminate the possibility of the development of resistant strains of disease-causing organisms. Until now, most antifungal medications resulted in unsightly water discoloration throughout the course of therapy. PimaFix does not have this disadvantage, providing better viewing of fish during treatment. Treating with PimaFix will not harm the biological filter in freshwater or saltwater aquariums or ponds. PimaFix has no effect on pH. PimaFix is harmless to aquatic plants. In extreme cases of especially stubborn infections, PimaFix has been designed to work synergistically with MelaFix. Using PimaFix and MelaFix together provides the added benefit of quick tissue regeneration and wound healing From Company's Website. I have never used PimaFix, so I do not know if it is safe for bettas. (Edited to add - I have since purchased some PimaFix, and treated some lethargic bettas with it as a general tonic. I used it at about half strength, and eveyone was fine. This is not to say that it is absolutely safe for bettas - just thought I'd update on my experience with it so far.)
9. Pimafix and Melafix are not harmful to fish. Where did you read that at? The only thing that I've read is that Melafix shouldn't be used with labyrinth fishes.
10. It's a good thing you took him out of the water. Melafix and Bettafix both are not good medications for bettas. They have an ingredient called Tea Tree Oil that can potentially harm a betta's labyrinth organ, the organ they use to breathe air from the surface. It's crazy that they market Bettafix for bettas when it can harm them. Right now the best thing you can do for your guy is keep him in clean, non-medicated water until you see him improve. If he hasn't perked back up and started eating within a day or two, add 1 tsp of aquarium salt per gallon to his tank.